Recently, an imaginative redditor proposed a theory that connected the worlds of Frozen and Tangled.
Below I have compiled what I think are the best pieces of ‘evidence’ raised in support of the theory, as well as one key detail that I believe changes everything.
But first, the theory:
The Frozen Theory
It didn’t take long after the release of Frozen for the internet to spot a certain cameo during the song ‘For The First Time In Forever’.
Princess Anna runs out to meet Flynn Rider and Rapunzel.
In this screenshot from early on in the film, we see a certain Disney princess attending the rare event of Arendelle opening its gates.
Judging by Rapunzel’s hair colour and style, we can see that this is set after Tangled because that film ends with Rapunzel cutting off her golden locks.
Flynn Rider and Rapunzel as they appear at the end of Tangled.
This is not the only proof that Frozen is set after Tangled. In fact, we know exactly how much time has passed between them.
You see, in Frozen, Anna and Elsa’s parents board an ill-fated ship that sadly never returns.
The moving scene of the King and Queen’s demise.
We are then told that three years have passed since the ship sank. This is when the main plot of Frozen takes place. Three years later.
It is, of course, no accident that Frozen was released three years (almost to the day) after Tangled.
The shared ‘7.9’ score is a conspiracy theory for another day.
Because Anna and Elsa’s parents died on their way to Rapunzel’s wedding.
How do we know this?
Well, in The Disney Theory I point out that the King and the Grand Duke appearing at the wedding in The Little Mermaid isn’t surprising as many European dignitaries would likely be invited to a European royal wedding.
(Since I wrote this article, Frozen writer and director Jennifer Lee has actually confirmed in a Reddit AMA that Elsa’s parents were on their way to a wedding. Co-director Chris Buck added that they survived the accident, and may be Tarzan’s parents.)
But Anna and Elsa’s parents were not just invited because they were royalty.
They were invited because one of them was related to Rapunzel.
The Queen from Tangled and her brother, the King from Frozen.
The family resemblance between Tangled‘s Queen and Frozen‘s King is striking, and it makes sense given the setting of the films that a Norwegian princess (the Frozen animators have acknowledged Norway is basis for Arendelle) would end up married to a German king (‘Rapunzel’ was written by German authors, The Brothers Grimm).
It also explains Elsa’s magical abilities, and how the King is so prepared for a magical child. Clearly the blonde daughters of this royal family are somehow susceptible to developing magical abilities. When Rapunzel cuts her hair it turns brown like her mother’s and she loses her magic. Unlike her sister, Frozen‘s Anna is a redhead and never displays any magic (or does she?)
(Elsa’s not the only member of Disney royalty with control over the elements. To find out more, you should read The Lion King Theory.)
So of course when Elsa magically injures Anna, her father immediately knows where they have to go, retrieving a book on trolls and how they can help cursed youngsters. The troll chief even asks ‘Born with the powers or cursed?’ as if he is aware of their family history.
‘Conceal, don’t feel, don’t let it show.’
Having seen his magical niece kidnapped by a jealous witch, it’s understandable that Elsa’s father wouldn’t want anybody to know about his daughter’s powers. This is why he teaches his daughter to hide her abilities, and later decides not to bring her to her cousin’s wedding for fear she might reveal them. Poor Anna was then also left so Elsa’s absence wasn’t so suspicious.
Three years later, when Arendelle opens its gates for Elsa’s coronation, it’s actually the first chance Rapunzel will have had to pay her respects to the previous king and queen – or rather, her aunt and uncle.
It Goes Deeper
Like all great conspiracies, the Frozen theory doesn’t stop at the easy connections. Not content to link just Frozen and Tangled, the threads stretch even further to connect to another Disney fairy tale that also shares an author with Frozen.
Because the sunken ship of Elsa’s parents has appeared in the Disney world before.
It’s the wreck that Ariel explores in The Little Mermaid.
Different, yes, but years underwater will do that to a wreck.
OK, so cynics might point out that this could be just about any ship. So let’s bring in some geography to explain the crazy.
You see, to travel from Frozen‘s frozen Norway to Tangled‘s Germany, you have to sail past Denmark.
Denmark is of course the home of Copenhagen’s ‘Little Mermaid’ statue and is the birthplace of Hans Christian Anderson, who wrote both ‘The Little Mermaid’ and ‘The Snow Queen’, which is the fairy tale Frozen is based on.
If the ship sank between Norway and Germany it would be lost somewhere in the North Sea that Ariel calls her home. That’s how it appears in The Little Mermaid, after years of degradation.
(For a different explanation of how Ariel finds the ship, read:)
Are Frozen’s King And Queen
Actually Tarzan’s Parents?
And so ends The Frozen Theory.
Except…
In The Disney Theory I used a certain scene from Tangled to support my theory.
See that book on the right?
This scene shows three Disney films that clearly exist as fairy tale books in the world of Tangled. In the top left we see Sleeping Beauty, below that is Beauty and the Beast, and over on the right…
The iconic image of The Little Mermaid.
So, the question: how can Ariel find the ship from Frozen if it exists as just a fairy tale in the connected world of Tangled?
The simple (and boring) answer would be that it doesn’t.
But What If It Does?
In the conclusion to The Disney Theory I argue that the fairy tales and recurring characters of the Disneyverse are archetypes in a grand repeating narrative of:
‘Daughters who dream of freedom, parents who die tragically and evil relatives who seek to control them.’
Like a computer trying to solve some cosmic puzzle, the Disney universe keep taking the same pieces and combining them in different ways in an attempt to find some great answers.
So maybe Ariel doesn’t find Elsa’s parent’s ship. Maybe the ship belongs to some other ill-fated Disney parents. Maybe the ‘Little Mermaid’ book in Tangled isn’t simply the story of Ariel’s life but is one of the many pre-defined narratives that a princess’ life can follow in this repeating Disney universe.
Maybe we’re looking in the wrong place for answers.
Because as exciting as the Little Mermaid connection is, it has almost completely distracted theorists from a far more interesting unified Disneyverse connection.
Wreck-It Ralph‘s ‘Sugar Rush’ land as it appears in Frozen.
Perhaps the ‘one big computer program’ The Disney Theory imagined is more literal than anyone realised, and the Disney universe is actually a collection of Disney games (and no I don’t mean Disney Infinity).
But that will have to wait for…
DisneyTheory.com 
Rapunzel’s power and hair color come from her mother drinking the potion made from the golden flower while she is still in the womb. It is not a genetic trait and therefore her brother (Elsa’s father) would not possess magical abilities that could be passed on to his children.
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Good point, though it doesn’t explain why Rapunzel’s mother doesn’t also get magical abilities from the flower. I believe there is significance in the blonde hair. I wonder what other Disney royalty they might be related to…
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Maybe it’s more of a susceptibility to magic’s abilities as a genetic trait. Something like that family having a low magical immunity, so to speak.
The idea of a princess with magical ice powers makes more sense in the original context of the idea Disney had, where there was a troll prophecy that the kingdom would fall victim to a never-ending winter.
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i would like to point out that in tangled rapunzel does not loose her powers when she cuts her hair. Her powers transfer into her tears. She even shows this when she saves flynn, her tears fall onto his wound and are more powerful than her hair ever was.
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I assumed this was a one-off sacrifice, just like the last magic of the flower came from drinking it. Since the magic came from the drop of sunlight it was then reflected by the yellow petals of the flower and Rapunzel’s blonde hair.
Rapunzel obviously doesn’t show any magic in the animated short or Frozen but it will be interesting if she does in the future.
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The king(elsa’s father) is blonde and he doesn’t have magical powers.
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That is a very valid point, however it could have been that the magic position was used to keep her alive during the birth of her (twin) daughters, Elsa and Rapunzel. Which can explain 1- why they are the same age, 2- why they both posses magic powers, and 3- why they both have their blonde hair 🙂 just a theory
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What if Rapunzel’s mother had twins (Rapunzel and Elsa) but when Rapunzel was stolen they sent Elsa to live with her uncle to keep her safe from mother gothel? that would explain how Elsa has magic powers and Anna doesn’t (as Rapunzels mother drank the potion) It would also explain why they took away anna’s memories at the start of frozen (to keep their only child safe)
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ernie817 I think he does have the power to control ice too like Elsa…
This is just my own opinion (theory) If you notice when child Kristoff saw the family riding horses at night to the trolls and there was ice appearing on the road the horses stepped on, he asked ‘ice?’ Now the ice MAY have been Elsa’s own powers but the king knows just what to do with Elsa’s powers. And when they died and Elsa has to take the throne, she looks up to the picture of her father holding the staff and (a ball?) which she also tries to do but freezes it. Elsa may have been trying to conceal her powers much like her father so he had always told her to conceal and don’t feel. Also, the king was very certain that she would learn to control her powers, this is because he had gone through the same thing ^^
Pretty long but just a theory xD
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I love that theory however I feel as though if that were the case then her father could have helped teach her how to control it, how to freeze and unfreeze things rather than having to hide it. It also doesn’t make since to me why Elsa is the only one with bright blonde hair in her family, when blonde hair, is a recessive trait. So if you think about it somethings up with that. Now we already know rapunzels background and how she got her powers, but why wouldn’t Disney bother to make a background for Elsa’s magic powers??? Laziness??? Or just simply because the same background applies for both girls, BECAUSE THEYRE TWINS!!!! 😄 to be more specific, they not only look alike, have the same characteristic that should not have been passed down to them under any other circumstance other than magic, but you also have to think why they would have been separated??? Because when the girls were born Rapunzel was kidnapped because she had the power of healing and keeping things young and new. While Elsa did not display any powers. However afraid that someone would come for her too, they sent her off to another land. That would 1- explain why they locked her away for so many years. To keep the one who kidnapped magical Rapunzel from finding out the twin sister had magic too. So it was to keep her safe 🙂
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I always thought that possibly Rapunzels’ mother had another child a year or 2 after Rapunzel but she was married off (she would be of an acceptable age for this in that time period) to a Norwegian prince (fin fact – Arendel is real. It was a medical fort in Norway.) This would allow for the whole relative thing and the genetic powers and blonde hair going to the eldest daughters. Also for the similar appearance of the Queens of Corona and Arendel. This would make the queen of Corona Anna and Elsas’ grandmother and Rapunzel their aunt though, so the 3 year time space kills that doesn’t it? If the Queen and Rapunzel are sisters close in age, Anna and Elsa could not be as old as they are.
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I meant medical fort, not medical
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Dammit! Medieval
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In Rise of the Guardians, Jack’s little sister grew up to marry the king of Arendelle. The moon told her that her first child would have ice powers in honor of Jack, who she thought was dead. THIS IS HOW ELSA GOT POWERS!
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How do you know that his sister marry to The king of arendelle?
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Yeah, but one movie is Disney’s and the other is DreamWorks
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Maybe this is why Elsa’s father is so secretive about the “magic abilities” All he knows is that his niece was blond, and saved by a magic flower and kid-napped. But then again it doesn’t state that Rapunzel’s family knew of her powers, only the old lady (kid-napper), so why would he be so scared.
Also, yahoo had proven that Elsa’s parents we on there way to Rapunzel’s return party. Not the wedding. Meaning the reason why Rapunzel was at Elsa’s party is to honor her in the repect of Elsa’s parents death.
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Interestingly, Frozen writer and director Jennifer Lee confirmed Elsa’s parents were going to a wedding in this Reddit AMA. In answer to the same question, co-director Chris Buck suggested they washed up on shore on a jungle island. But that’s another story…
Whether the family could know about her powers is a good question. When the queen is sick at the beginning of Tangled it’s interesting how the kingdom immediately knows they need a ‘magic golden flower’. Presumably this means there were already rumours about a witch and a magically rejuvenating flower, and when the flower cures the queen these rumours were confirmed.
The king sees the witch disappear with his child, so he would have almost certainly launched an investigation in to why Gothel needed her. I’m betting the lock of brown hair in their blonde daughter’s crib was a clue…
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yeah that makes a lot of sense but it is just so mind blowing hat elsa might be related to rapunzel.
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Don’t know if you’ve seen this or not, but it’s a really interesting perspective on the Rapunzel/Elsa relation. Definitely worth watching. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lhf9dekzyq4&feature=youtu.be
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And yet…now that Frozen II has come out…they weren’t on their way to a wedding at all. So there goes all that hard work.
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Have you seen the possible connection of Frozen to Tarzan? That the Anna and Elsas parents didn’t die in the ship wreckage but washed up on shore of an island and had a baby boy. There is a picture of Tarzans parents next to the king and queen and they are strikingly similar. What are your thoughts on that? Also saw someone say they think Jane is Belle and Beasts grandaughter explaining why Mrs. teapot and chip are there… I’m no Disney conisour so I could definitely be missing major flaws in these theories but the Tarzan and Frozen connection is convincing.
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Good point Lauren but if that were the case then Mrs Potts and chip wouldn’t be in their cursed form but in their human form because of the fact that they turned human at the end of the movie when the curse was broken. Way before Bell and Beast had kids.
I wouldn’t doubt it if there was a connection between Frozen and Tarzan. Them sharing the same parents.
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Good point Lauren but if that were the case then Mrs Potts and chip wouldn’t be in their cursed form but in their human form because of the fact that they turned human at the end of the movie when the curse was broken. Way before Bell and Beast had kids.
I wouldn’t doubt it if there was a connection between Frozen and Tarzan. Them sharing the same parents.
I just saw a picture of Tarzan’s parents and they do not look like Elsa’s parents besides there is a picture in Tarzan (movie) showing the parents holding Tarzan when he was a baby. Since we know Elsa’s parents were only leaving for 2 weeks there is no way they could have gotten pregnant, had a baby and had a picture painted all before the ship had went under.
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The creators of Tangled has announced that Tangled had been set around the 1740s. Since Rapunzel and Eugene feature in ‘Frozen’ looking relatively same, we can assume Frozen is set around the same time too. Tarzan however was set in the 19th century. There is no way the King and Queen of Arendelle are the father and mother of Tarzan. The time is way off.
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Has it occurred to any of you people that, based on the clothing, Tangled and Frozen are at least 100 years apart, if not more. I’m suprised to read Tangled was set in the 1740s, it looks like the Renaissance to me, while I’d put Frozen some where near 1800. I know it’s all just internet fun, but the idea that Rapunzel in Frozen is anymore than an Easter egg and is actually intended to connect the films is just silly.
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Plus, if they really where Tarzans parents, how did they go from the coast of Denmark to a Jungle?
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Appfan Rapunzel (in hair cut form) was in the frozen movie tho
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i have a theory of my own. What if prince Hans sailed to another kingdom to get married but actually found a true love so he stayed there for a while and got a son. Soon he decided to get back to his homeland and show his newborn to his brothers but they end up in a storm which carries them to Tarzan’s land. As he says he is ”Prince Hans of the Southern Isles” so it would explain how he ended up in a storm in the Caribbean and his beard is nearly the same as Tarzan’s father’s. What do you think?
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Took the words right out off my mouth xD I was going to comment about how Hans has a slight resemblance to the king of Arendelle with brown hair so I imagined Hans older with a mustache and thought that if he isn’t Tarzan’s dad, one of Hans’ 12 brothers may be his dad 🙂
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Interesting idea. However, it would only work if you place Tarzan after Frozen in the timeline, because Tarzan’s parents are killed on the island. I like this idea though! I haven’t heard this before; it’s intriguing.
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Lauren that is an interesting theory but that would mean the King and Queen of Arendale would have to swim ALOT to get to Africa also you may have noticed but lots of Disney characters look alike. Other than that it is convincing. Those are just plot holes that I have found and read.
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OK. So if Elsa’s dad is a blonde too, couldn’t he have known about the possibility of magical powers being passed through his own genes? After all, he knew the trolls and right where to go when he needed them. Why and how did he know this? Had he visited them before himself? Perhaps some magical abilities were gifted to his line (maybe by some tiny fairies long ago to another blonde?).
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Meaning Aurora? Those fairies do get around. They teach at the princess school Sophia the First attends. Isn’t she often visited by the Disney Princesses?
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Unfortently I seen the one where Merida appeared Merida is my fave Disney princess but Anna and Merida could be sister because they look so alike they both like adventures Ginger hair:’*
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The Sleeping Beauty suggestion is so amazing and works so well it deserves it’s own article.
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so how did the haunted mansion’s statue end up in Frozen?
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Well spotted! The busts in the Haunted Mansion are pretty modern compared to that last image but the link is certainly there.
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If u see the movie tangled, ull see that she was birn with powers because of a flower so the family isnt all magic
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In the last picture, the statue head, isn’t that prince eric?
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Perhaps! Denmark certainly isn’t far away. But if Frozen is before The Little Mermaid how could Eric already be old enough to be in this statue? Maybe it’s a relative?
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Maybe it’s Eric’s father?
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Josh, you see they got married in on 2012 (Tangled Ever After). So this theory doesn’t have full proof or they got married earlier on 2010 and the animators just made Tangled Ever After late.
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Tarzan and elsa can’t be related cause in the movie Tarzan. Tarzans dad has red hair and elsa’s dad has blonde hair
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What if Tarzan’s mom was Anna and Elsa’s dad’s sister?
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There is also a theory that the parents of Elsa and Anna survived the ill-fated sinking of the boat, washed up on an island, had a boy, then was killed by a leopard. The boy, Tarzan.
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Tarzan’s parents were the Lord and Lady Greystoke of Englund. That story was set in the 1880s or 1890s. Frozen’s artwork sets it in the 1840s. I think people are reaching a little too far to connect everything.
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I’d like to see if there is any link to Hans and his brothers who are princes and kings-if we’ve already met some of his brothers…
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Reblogged this on So Fresh It Hurts and commented:
Just spent an hour looking at this. Fresh? Maybe. Interesting? More than you know. Reblog worthy? You bet.
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What if the parnets survived the wreck and gave birth to Tarzan
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The Tarzan’s parents are Elsa and Anna’s theory might be wrong. because the ship of Tarzan’s parents contained items not from Arendelle and the Father in the portrait was wearing a Suit and tie in the pic, which I think wasn’t invented yet or they simply didn’t wear those things at that time.
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I thought Rapunzel’s magic came from her mother drinking the potion. The magic didn’t give the queen any powers because it healed her…that was the magic working in her. It had nothing to do with Rapunzel being blonde. And Elsa isn’t technically blonde. Her hair is white. Also if they were cousin’s why would Anna have just walked by Rapunzel, singing, when they opened the gate? Wouldn’t she have greeted her?
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Actually, in the official Frozen books, it is stated that Elsa has Platinum Blonde hair, which is the lightest hair color and appears to be white hair in certain lights.
Also, lets consider the fact that Anna never met her cousin (it being Rapunzel in the theory) & that she was probably told that her cousin was born with Blonde hair, as well as the fact that there were all kinds of Royals & dignitaries attending the coronation, she might not have thought twice about the pretty brunette in the light pink dress in the sea of incoming people.
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well when she walked out she smiled really big when she saw Rapunzel and she waved
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If you pay attention to a certain thick french accent, you’ll find a Beauty and the Beast cameo in Frozen.
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what!!!!!? I need to know more, just tell, don’t tease! lol
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Tyler!!!? Now you need to tell more!!
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How can Tarzan’s parents be Anna & Elsa? The shipwreck was in Denmark and Tarzan is in Africa then so how the hell can that happen? BTW Elsa & Anna’s father is a redhead while their mother is a brunette.
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Hey I just wanna tell you that Kristoff did sing “Don’t let the frostbite bite”. Didn’t it sounds like Pumbaa’s “Don’t let the bed bugs bite”? Also, is there’s a way that Elsa and Anna’s Castle is actually the Beast Castle?
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No because Frozen is set in Norway and Beauty and the Beast is set in France
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Just a head up at the end he asks how could Ariel exist if it’s just a fairy tale for some of e older disney fans u can recall the little mermaid tv show on Disney Chanel there is an episode that shows Hans christoph Anderson on a ship and catches a glimpse of Ariel which gives the idea to write the little mermaid keep in mind the show takes place before Ariel becomes human so It could be he finished his book before the timeline we see in tangled
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Anna and Elsa’s cousin are Rapunzel. When Anna and Elsa’s parents were shipwrecked, Ariel explored the ship but Anna and Elsa’s parents were not there because they have escaped in an island. In the island, they give birth to a boy named Tarzan, and they died because of a wild cut.
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Youre right
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There is to much of a time gap for that theory
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But,why their son named “Tarzan”? Why not another Europan name like John,etc?
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You are wrong because in the start of Tarzan a baby is already being held
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The apes named him Tarzan… he is John Clayton, Lord Greystoke.
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There is a 40-50 year gap between events, Tarzan’s parents were the Lord & Lady Greystoke (Clayton) and they were marooned on the Atlantic coast of Africa by mutineers. Edgar Rice Burroughs did give quite a bit of background to Tarzan, and I’m fairly sure he didn’t mention Scandinavian mutants at all 😛
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While that sounds pretty cool, I do recall it being a plan that crashed. That’s how tarzans parents got there by plane crash. Not to mention it makes more sense for the ‘cousins’ to be ‘sisters’ seeing as they both have beautiful blonde hair (which if you know genetics you know blonde is a recessive gene so even if one parent did have the trait it wouldn’t show because darker hair is a dominant trait) so it makes sense that both girls are “twins” who received their powers from the magic flower potion their mother drank before there birth. Now in order to solidify this you can also look at age. When tangled came out (nov. 24, 2011), it takes place when Rapunzel is 18. Then three years later when frozen came out (nov. 27, 2014) (correct me if I’m wrong, but I know it’s around there) the story takes place when Elsa was 21, which would mean Rapunzel is also 21. So how did they get separated??? Well it was of course when mother Ethel kidnapped Rapunzel that their parents declared their kingdom unsafe and handed her to another kingdom to raise in hopes of she did show to have magic powers, the kidnapper of Rapunzel wouldn’t find out. Which explains why they didn’t seek help for her powers in the first place, because they knew where they came from!! It also explains why they locked her up and isolated her from everyone, even her sister. So no one would try to kidnap her like with what happened to Rapunzel, her twin sister.
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About the Tarzan theory, what if that comment by the co-directoris a hint @ a new movie in development.
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And, what if Anna and Elsa’s parents’ ship sank en route to Rapunzel and Flynn’s wedding, because of Ursula’s Mega octo-witch victory dance hurricane. Also, Anna and Elsa’s father seemed to have known something about controlling magic. Plus, nothing in her room remained frozen when he was around.
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Maybe the king of Arendelle is also the queen from tangled’s son. I know its far fetched, but it would also explain the resemblance in between him and the queen
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and his daughter’s powers, and the fact that he seemed so prepared to have a magical child, and the theory about the powers get sent down to the blond children in the family
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Actually I think that they are brother and sister. Mostly because of Rapunzel and Eugene showing up in the First Time in Forever sequence. They look to be the same age as they did when they were in Tangled (Or Tangled Ever After. Take you’re pick) and Rapunzel and Anna/Elsa look to be the same age. If the king of Arendalle is the queen of Corona’s son, there would have to be a huge age gap between Rapunzel and Elsa/Anna
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No offense, but I honestly think that you people are paying way too much attention to the little things. There are many more things to worry about in life rather than if Repunzel was Anna and Elsa’s cousin or not. If Disney’s movies are so repetitive than just don’t watch them! Can’t I just watch a movie and not have so many people trying to find out every single detail? I mean, are you serious?
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?? Why are you so upset about it then?? You don’t have to be here. You don’t have to comment. If you don’t like it, then you don’t have to participate!! You can just watch a regular Disney movie if you want! Look, I’m sorry if we upset you but we ENJOY this!! YOU DON’T HAVE TO DO ANYTHING IF YOU DON’T WANT TO!!!
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Just so you are aware, I was reading the comments, and someone mentioned something about Anna and Elsa’s parents being gone for two weeks and not being able to get pregnant in that amount if time. Well, if you had payed attention, in Disney’s Frozen, Anna and Elsa’s parents never returned, so yes they would have enough time to have a baby…I’m just pointing out the obvious.
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In Tarzan, the baby is already born when the ship is sunk. In Frozen, Anna says “See you in two weeks” because that’s how long until they come back. The creators of Frozen have released that they were on their way to a wedding when the boat sinks (most likely Rapunzel’s wedding). Anna’s mother is not pregnant when they leave, meaning that it is impossible that she could have given birth to Tarzan in the two weeks that they were on board the ship in those two weeks.
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The thing with the whole “blonde hair” …the area that this animated film was to take place, was in Norway…it’s common for people around Germany or Russia to have blonde hair and blue eyes so stop freaking out
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Didn’t The Little Mermaid take place in the Caspian Sea? Apart from Hans Christian Andersen, what makes everyone think TLM took place in Denmark?
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I like the original theory of Elsa, Anna, and Rapunzel being cousins, the Arial thing is a little far fetched and so is the tarzan stuff, the animation is totally different and doesn’t quite flow with the original theory, unless Eric was Anna and kristoffs son. Or Repunzel and Eugenes son. however, I have heard rumors on Jack Frost and Elsa, are they related by some chance? or possibly just two magic people who meet then marry? what do you think?
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Rise of the Guardians is a Dreamworks film, so no, there is absolutely no connection.
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The Frozen and Rise of the Guardian fandoms like to pair the two up cuz they both have ice powers, but since Frozen is Disney and ROTG is DreamWorks, no, its not possible for them to have a connection.
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That doesn’t mean the they can’t be connected.
Cinderella, Snow White and Rapunzel are all Disney, correct?
Shrek is DreamWorks, correct?
Yet they are all in the DreamWorks movie together!
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also I wanted to add, that the ship that there parents sank on couldn’t be the one Arial finds, I have been studying the ships and there original ship didn’t have little round windows that Arial used to escape from the shark. And the tarzans parents jumped from a boat that was on flames, not swam up from a sinking boat. as for anna and elsas parents were in a server storm and got drowned. now I kinda have a idea. the boat in tarzan could be the same in arial? maybe??
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I don’t know if anyone realized this yet, but doesn’t the bust in Anna’s picture with the chocolates look like Prince Eric from the Little Mermaid? I might be looking too far into things…but…
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In TLM, Sebastion sounds like he’s from the Caribbean, but the cook has is extremely French, and in TLM 2, Melody manages to get all the way to the North Pole within a day… it’s all very confusing.
My personal opinion is that TLM and Frozen aren’t connected. Since we have no evidence where TLM take place, we can’t just assume they crossed paths. I support the Tangled and Frozen theory wholeheartedly, and since we have visual proof that Rapunzel knows the Frozen family well enough to attend Elsa’s coronation, its safe to say she has some relationship with them.
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Has anyone thought about Kristoff? No body knows his true lineage, since he lives with trolls, so it may be possible that he has a connection with someone else in the Disneyverse. Reply if you have any ideas on this.
I’ve actually thought about this, and I’m wondering if maybe he’s related to Anastasia and the Baker from Cinderella 2: Dreams Come True. If you look up “The Baker Cinderella 2” you can see some pictures of The Baker and Anastasia. Look at Kristoff’s round face, blonde hair, large nose that compares to The Baker, and his dark brown eyes that compares to Anastasia. Don’t forget Kristoff’s attraction to excentric redheads that compares to his father’s…
There is not a ton of evidence supporting this, because it is questionable how Kristoff managed to make his way from 1700’s France to and area near Russia… but neverless, the extreme similarities between Anastasia, the Baker and Kristoff is kind of undeniable.
As I said, PLEASE reply if you have any comments on this!
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Good idea! Never would have thought of that, the timing and living makes it kinda far fetched but the accually resemblance is astonishing. Perhaps he was left alone when they crashed on a boat towards Arandelle or Anastasia didn’t want him ( since she has been known for a faul themperment) she very easily could have sent him away..
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ARIEL AND ERICS SON!!! It could also be there daughters son, but it kinda makes since, I mean, they are close, and if Ariel came first by like 80years then there daughter could be kristoffs mom. Any ideas for a dad? Sorry if I got any of that wrong I’m kinda new at all this..
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Actually Kaley, I’ve always thought the story of Cinderella takes place in the 1870’s, while Cinderella’s past took place in the 1860’s. It says on Disney’s wiki that Frozen takes place in 1839, while Elsa was born on the winter solstice and Anna was born on the summer solstice. Now, we know that Rapunzel’s birthday was in the spring or summer, on May 13th, according to Disney. How would Rapunzel and Elsa be twins if Elsa was born around December 21st and Rapunzel would be born on May 13th or possibly around the summer solstice, which would be around June 21st? It still doesn’t explain how King Agnar and Queen Iduna’s royal ship would be discovered by Ariel years later, if the story of The Little Mermaid was available to read in the 1740’s, by Rapunzel and Eugene/Flynn.
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How did Elsa get her powers?
We have to look at the Tangled/Frozen storylines together. There are many clues that point to this
1. Why is Elsa born with the special powers
2. How does the king know where to go when Elsa strikes Anna accidently
3. Who are the King/Troll in the King’s book – it seems like the trolls had saved someone in the family from frozen head syndrome before.
4. When the troll warns of Elsa’s power having dangers the King says she can learn to control it I’m sure – what gives him this confidence. Why is he sure that Anna or others will not be in danger again
5. How does he know that the gloves will help Elsa – even though other materials like shoes don’t block Elsa’s icy powers?
Elsa likely got her powers from her father’s side. Many hundreds years ago when a drop of sun fell on the Earth the magic flower bloomed with healing powers. Around the same time the force of the wind and water combined in Arendelle away and gave rise to a magic ice crystal which was likely acquired by Arendelle’s King to gain magical powers. However, this power was not controlled and resulted in at least one example of frozen head syndrome and the troll helped. Since then the family did not disclose the powers to anyone. The powers subsequently passed on to descendants, sometimes skipping a generation. It is likely Elsa’s father had seen someone in the family with these powers and that’s how he knows how to help.
This also ties in to why everyone in Rapunzel’s kingdom starts searching for the magic flower when the queen is ill. If Rapunzel’s mom is the sister of Elsa and Anna’s dad then it is very likely that she or her brother might have asked for a search of the magic source – having known of the ice crystal and its power. That also explains why the healing powers was acquired by Rapunzel and stayed strong in her tears with her even though her hair was cut.
This brings me to the more exciting part of my theory. It is very likely there will be two more Disney princesses with powers. We have had two as of now – Rapunzel the princess with the healing and restorative power of Magic flower which was born when a drop of the Sun (Fire) fell on the Earth. The second magical princess is Elsa, with the power of the magic ice crystal born of the cold air (Wind) and Mountain Rain (Water) combining (as alluded to in the Frozen Heart song). Rapunzel has the power of restoration/life and represents Earth, Elsa wields the beautiful but deadly power of water. The next two princesses will have the powers of the Wind and Fire.
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In response to the previous post, I agree that the Tangled and the Frozen families might possibly be related… and to the response to the Fire, Ice, Wind and Water theory, I think it might be plausible. And guess what! Disney is creating a new Princess movie called Moana! Although we might have to wait for a few years, we might have another power Princess in the league.
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And also, maybe we already have a Water power person…
think about King Triton! Although he is defiantly NOT a princess, he still has the Water power.
And this sort of ties into the Frozen Theory too… what if Tangled’s family, Frozen’s family and TLM’s family really are connected, at least in the power department.
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Thanks so much for making the connection – I didnt think it through before. Moana is a Polynesian princess and this confirms the Earth, Water, Fore Wind Theory. The South Pacific is the spirited/mystical meeting ground of Fire and Water – where Volcanic Lava flows into the ocean. (Fire goddess Pele is an example of the folklore). Moana is the Princess with Fire Powers.
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And the Trolls, King Triton – King of Mermaids/other magical characters confirm that other creatures are able to harness these powers but humans can only do so in extremely rare circumstances. King Triton and probably other sea creatures like the sea witch Ursula possess varying degrees of water power. Pabee the magical Troll ( or rock creature) possesses the Healing/Life giving power of Earth as did some of his ancestors (if he isn’t several hundred years old and was the troll in the King’s book). It is not yet revealed as to WHY certain human princesses were also able to possess these powers – is there a grander theory hiding behind the “Earth, Water, Fire, Wind” Theory. Will there be a princess who brings them all together for a grand adventure ( similar to the assembling of the Avengers). Only time will tell and I can’t wait.
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Same here. Can’t wait 🙂
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Do u have any evidence to support the fact that all the disney characters are connected
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Interesting to note, the skeleton of a pirate (with a sword lodged in the place his chest should be) appears on board the ship Ariel explores in The Little Mermaid; how precisely would one explain that?
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Wait!! If anyone has seen, The Little Mermaid Ariel’s Beginning (the prequel), there is a pirate ship that killed Ariel’s mother. Maybe that’s the ship Ariel was actually exploring many many years later!!
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What if the girl’s magical powers is closely related to marvels “mutants”? Therefore connecting the marvel world and the Disney world.
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In the start of Tarzan the ship is on fire and a mother is already holding her baby even though Elsa and Ana’s mother never looked pregnant. My idea is that rapunzels parents also were in a ship crash in the future and they are the ones. A bad luck in families which would also mean that Eric is related to them!
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Tarzan was raised in a completely different century than Elsa and Anna. There is no way he’s related to them, not their brother at least. Also the geography kinda shoots this theory apart. Considering that they were traveling from Norway to Germany the ship being washed up in Kenya where Tarzan is said to have been set is pretty unplausible.
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Tarzan’s parents were on a ship which suffered mutiny, but there’s nothing to say they weren’t on another ship prior to that. Let’s say they were Anna and Elsa’s parents, their ship sank so everyone thought them dead, but they were picked up by another ship and *that* ship was then subject to mutiny and the mutineers sailed it to the African coast. That would also add plenty of time to the timeline for them to have another baby. It doesn’t explain why they suddenly become Lord and Lady Greystoke though!
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So I’m obsessed with the theory of a relationship between Tangled, Frozen, and The Little Mermaid. Many of my friends and family were skeptical. However, today, when watching Frozen for the hundredth time, in the scene right AFTER the Rapunzle cameo, it cuts to Elsa again, and then back to Anna. The first millisecond of the scene when it cuts back to Anna you see her turned around and waving to the exact spot Eugine and Rapunzle were seconds ago. Confirming that there was. Prior connection between the two girls. It’s the slightest glance of a wave, but it’s there!
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The theory that the Disneyverse keeps repeating patterns actually seems quite reasonable to me; and quite close to the idea presented in Mercedes Lackey’s 500 Kingdoms series (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercedes_Lackey_bibliography#Tales_of_the_Five_Hundred_Kingdoms) , where all the fairy tales that we’ve known so far take place in some unspecified medieval era – controlled by a magical atmosphere called The Tradition(or Fate, if you will) which tries to fit every person’s story to match existing ones.
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I have one thing that I don’t understand
what is the map that fell from the old book in frozen
and what the mean of TRNI that wright on the Map
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Well I thought that was the map to the trolls. But they didn’t use it! Maybe ur on to something we overlooked!!
Hmmm.. are there any movies where they had to look for treasure?
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I believe I’m commenting this in the wrong place, but only because I lost the page I was one while reading when I came up with a theory. What if the prince Ariel sees on the ship is one of Hans’s brother or hans himself? He did have 12 brothers. Or what if on the way back to The Southern Isles they have a ship wreck? And Hans is the prince Areil sees. It seems impossible for both of the ships to wreck in the same place but it would explain why the Duke is in Tarzan right?
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maybe Tarzan is a child that Anna and Elsa parents saved from the ship wreck rather then it being theirs, cause the time frame would be wrong or maybe Tarzan parents where also on the same ship. I don’t think Tarzan is Elsa and Anna parents though. Oh and in case your all forgetting Elsa is blonde because of the curse she is born with, she may not naturally be a blonde e.g. like Rapunzel wasn’t naturally blonde she could just be blonde because she has magic inside her rather then the other way round, thus being blondes are magic I.f you remember in the film she frozen Anna mind and even Anna hair turned blonde because she had ice in her. Rapunzel was naturally brunette so Elsa could. But why doesn’t she turn brunette at the end of the film you ask, well this is because Elsa unlike Rapunzel doesn’t actually get rid of her powers, she just simply learns to control them for good. So it is magic that turns your hair blonde to show you are magical. And the reason the queen doesn’t turn blonde is because the baby in the womb drinks the nectar also hence why Rapunzel is born blonde.
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The Tarzan’s parents theory doesn’t makes sense because they had all that extra stuff with them. Why would they things like a family photo if they planned to return?
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Perhaps we should consider that Anna and Elsa’s father is descended from a certain redheaded demi-god. The sharp, straight nose is rather Greek. Being related to the Gods could certainly play havoc on genetics. And I believe that the ship that Ariel explores in The Little Mermaid, is suppose to be the ship that crashed and killed Ariel’s mother in The Little Mermaid 3. I do believe that The Little Mermaid takes place around the Caribbean (at least the Disney version does) due to the colorful reef and fish and the Jamacian crab. With that information, it could be speculated that Eric is one of Hans’ older brothers, being as Hans is from “the Southern Isles”.
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This is just a thought but the head that Anna sings too what if it’s the head of the Prince Eric statue.
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As much as we all want “The Little Mermaid” to actually have occurred in Denmark…..how about all those TROPICAL FISH?
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“Rapunzel’ was written by German authors, The Brothers Grimm”. It was actually just collected by them, like all German fairytales, parts of them being related to French fairytales (like Sleeping Beauty) and eastern European fairytales. Maybe the people working for Disney are aware of these things too?
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I hope jack frost from the rise of the guardians and elsa from frozen will soon be related . . think they have love chemistry 😀 hope ull work it up. .
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because they both got the ice powers anyway. . 😀
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Jack frost is dead and can only be seen by children who belive in him
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The Tarzan and Frozen theory is not real at all, for one Frozen and Tarzan take place at different time lines. Also when Tarzan s parents bout BURNED Tarzan was already there, he wasn’t born in Africa he was born even before his parents set sail, and finally Tarzan’s parents were commoners and from England, not Norway.
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WAIT!!! I just realized something! Maybe Tarzan’s parents aren’t Elsa and Anna’s parents, what if they’re Hans’!! It is certainly likely that since Hans came to the coronation, there might be a connection to Rapunzel as well. People say that Elsa and Anna’s mom didn’t have red hair like Tarzan’s mom did, but didn’t Hans have red hair?? Maybe on the way to Rapunzel’s wedding, Hans’ parents might’ve got stuck in the same storm. Maybe since Hans’ parents are out of the way, they couldn’t get mad or lecture (or whatever) Hans for taking over Elsa’s kingdom!!!!!!! Also I wonder what his connection is with the Duke of Weselton is??
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So at the end of tangled rapunzels hair is cut and goes brown, and you see rapunzel in frozen with brown hair, so why in the frozen fever trailer does she have the long blonde hair again???!!!
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If you are speaking of Rapunzel, you must have seen a fake trailer because she isn’t in it…..if you are talking about Elsa, elsa never got rid of her powers, just learned to control them so she would still have her blonde hair.
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The thing with the hair I have issue with is that lets say elsa lost her powers when she cut her hair! Elsa would have had to have hair almost as long as Rapunzel. Elsa’s Hair grew to just below her shoulders where it should have been even longer if her hair was never cut. This leads to believe that the ice powers is a recessive gene in her family’s bloodline not something that was cursed upon them. Elsa was in fact born blonde but it was more a platinum blonde due to the recessive gene in her blood. Elsa had to have had her hair cut multiple times from youth to an adult or her hair would have been really long in frozen.
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Ariel in The Little Mermaid is actually in the carribean, not near where Elsa and Ana would live. She is actually between the islands of Jamaica, Haiti/the Domician Republic and Cuba. She spots Eric on a beach in a part of Jamaica called Port Royal, explaining why Sebastian has a “Jamaican” accent. This part of Jamaica was often populated by pirates in then time Ariel would have lived. Famous pirates lived there, including Black Beard. This is why Ariel spots a pirate ship going to a kingdom, they were most likely going to Port Royal. So, this means, that it is impossibe for Ariel to find Elsa and Ana’s parent’s shipwreck.
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if you pay really good attention to frozen you will notice that all of the disney princesses are at Elsa’s coronation and in tangled Anna is one of the children in the town that does Rapunzels hair.
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Whaaaaaaaaa? I’m watching both of those again!
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A feature-length movie with the spirit, if not the splendor, of the Disney classics.
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I’m pretty sure Rapunzel is roughly the same age as either Elsa or Anna, so it couldn’t be Rapzunel’s wedding.
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it could be Rapunzel’s wedding because in frozen Anna asked for Elsa’s blessing of marriage so Anna is old enough to marry and so whether Rapunzel was Anna or Elsa’s age she is old enough to marry
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I don’t know if others noticed this but
Rapunzel’s mom and Anna and Elsa’s mom look similar … well sort of, and some people have the theory that they are sisters or twins.
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I thought the same thing! IMO they look more alike.
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Here’s my beef with the theory that the king has powers. If he did he could have/should have saved the ship from the storm, by simply freezing the sea. That isn’t to say the powers don’t run in his family (although according to OUAT it’s from the queen’s side) but truly I don’t think he had powers himself. I am completely sold (and giddy) on Rapunzel being Elsa and Anna’s cousin, although I do wonder if it could have been on the queen’s side? But the point is they are related and it’s awesome!! The Tarzan thing does not line up geographically or chronologically IMO, plus it’s not a fairy tail so I feel it’s a stretch to connect those dots. I so so badly want there to be a connection between TLM and Frozen!! If the time lines were different I even kicked around the idea of Melody being the queen’s mother because there are similarities in their looks. I could definitely see Eric being an older brother of Hans. Note in TLM2 there is no mention made of Eric being king or Ariel being queen, leading us to believe that Eric is likely not the crown prince, but simply a prince with his own palace (so there would be an older sibling involved, one would think). I think there is a resemblance there, although most Disney princes do have a similar “look”. But the smile … the eyes … I could see it. This seriously made my day, lol!
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Now my mind just twisted everything up … what if the king and queen were traveling to Prince Eric (of the Southern Isles) and Areil’s wedding?? And then Ariel and Eric couldn’t attend the coronation because Ursala’s crazy sister was hell bent on trying to snatch Melody, so a trip by boat would be out of the question. Although I do really like the theory someone else had about that insane storm being caused by Ursula. Disney needs to give us answers 😛
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I think is that Elsa and Anna parents were going back to Arendelle then the storm came cause you should rematch the tangled ever after because it has frozen king and queen in the back row. But I like how you explain it.
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or elsa and anna dad is snow whites son and the evil queen cursed snow whites sons daughter with those powers idk -.- or elsa and anna are like the snow queen and the summer queen I saw something like that in a movie
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so Elsa and Anna are related to Rapunzel or no
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I kept thinking about the ships and realized something: Ariel doesn’t visits the ship where Elsa and Anna’s parents were travelling. I got curious and saw both movies and also made captions and there is a main thing I want to point out to prove what I am saying: The design and something that one really should pay attention to it. Here’s one of the captions I’ve made, from the ship from Frozen: http://tinyurl.com/q6h95yh . Pay attention to two important details: 1) No hatchway or the wooden details like it’s shown on this scene of Little mermaid (Which, also, it’s what Ariel goes through to get into the ship): http://tinyurl.com/oejt7rp. And, on an open plan from the shipwreck it’s possible to notice the second detail: http://tinyurl.com/p9nd4lz. Near the bow, we can see clearly the wooden balusters that do not exist in the ship from Frozen. Seeing this… I must disagree with the thing that Ariel visits the shipwreck from Frozen.
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You are actually wrong about something. Rapunzel doesn’t have her powers because of heritage but because her mother drank the magic flower when she was pregnant with her. And also, Rapunzel doesn’t lose her magic powers because it is AFTER Flynn cuts her hair that she heals him.
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In Rise of the Guardians, Jack’s little sister grew up to marry the king of Arendelle. The moon told her that her first child would have ice powers in honor of Jack, who she thought was dead. THIS IS HOW ELSA GOT POWERS!
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Maybe she had the powers all along, and the flower just triggered them. Something similar could have happened to trigger Elsa’s powers (or maybe the powers just trigger naturally at a certain age).
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Don’t know if this has been commented already, but there is a portrait of the King from Tangled earlier in the same song. Now why would a portrait of another King be hanging in the royal palace?
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In Rise of the Guardians, Jack’s little sister grew up to marry the king of Arendelle. The moon told her that her first child would have ice powers in honor of Jack, who she thought was dead. THIS IS HOW ELSA GOT POWERS!
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WAIT WAIT WAIT I have something to add to this theory!
…So if this theory is true and Frozen/Tangled/The Little Mermaid all share the same universe, then it confirms that TLM take place in Denmark.
Denmark. A land mostly composed of islands. At the South of Arendelle/Norway…
Yes. THE LITTLE MERMAID TAKES PLACE IN THE SOUTHERN ISLES.
So, assuming the Southern Isles only have one royal family, that can only mean one thing : Prince Hans and Prince Eric are related.
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Maybe Kingdom Hearts is canon, and the families of Sora\Riku\Kairi\Roxas\Xion\Namine\Ventus\Terra\Aqua are going around all these worlds with their Keyblades, and thus some stuff in a movie actually originates from the “world” of the other.
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I haven’t had time to read everything on here so I maybe repeating someone else’s theory. I agree it makes sense that the King and Queen were travelling to the castle of Rapunzel. But ignoring the tropical nature of the Little Mermaid and assuming it’s in between Frozen and Tangled. I don’t think the ship wreck Aries goes to is the Frozen ship.
I believe the storm that kills / maroons the Elsa and Anna’s parents was actually caused by the end encounter between Aries / Eric and Ursula. It is actually Ariel’s fault he Elsa and Anna are orphaned.
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That’s quite a theory. I do say its possible. But in all honesty I think the theory of Elsa and Rapunzel being sisters make more sense than cousins
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Maybe they’re siblings on one side cousin on the other.
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I completely agree. I mean not only do the actions of Elsa’s parents prove suspicious, but their genetics seem to match up a bit more. Not to mention, why don’t the parents have powers? And why did the dad hesitate to answer the questio the troll king asked about whether she was born with them or cursed with them??? I feel like it’s because he wasn’t there for her birth. Now where did her powers come from??? I mean we know rapunzels came from the flower which gave her blond hair, but what about Elsa??? Where did her blond hair come from? And how did she get to the kingdom??? Well
We knew mother ethyl kidnapped Rapunzel because she displayed healing powers. Well if you think about it. At first Elsa couldn’t have displayed powers because well she was a baby and hers wasn’t activated by song. So when Rapunzel was kidnapped her parents decided to send her to another kingdom to keep her safe! Then when she began displaying powers, Anna’s parents didn’t treat it like a normal parent would. Instead they hid it and her powers so no one would come after her!!!
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no cause elsa and anna’s parents where different than rapunzel’s ones
and have you realises that elsa looks like her mom
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I think that was just a shipwreck that belonged to the kingdom Prince Eric was from if not to Prince Eric himself or his parents.
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i never new anna’s and elsa’s mom and dad had a sun.
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wow j’ai jamais cru ke elsa et anna sont raiponce sa soeur
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And why were elsa and anna not also going to the wedding? They were older. They were princesses. So surely the king and queen would have taken them.
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AbSolutely Nothing to add, than this is just cool, even if we might be adding meanings to minor things but then again people do write these stories and such twists isn’t impossible.
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Why Disney is doing this…All this time all movies where conected together.Disney wants that we finish they puzzle.And we gonna do it
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how are they cosins?
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I still Think that Rapunzel and Elsa is twins, and Anna is there cousin (Tarzan too), the night Rapunzel was taken by mother Gothel, they sended Elsa to Arendale and her aunt (their mothers sister) and her uncle, that explains why the king in frozen waits a little before he said “born with” or something like that (I’m from Denmark and I only remember that part in Danish) but Elsa and Rapunzel doesn’t know that they are twins. (There is many more parts of it but I’m kinda tired right now so I don’t have energy enough for writing anymore)
Xx Lærke
(Btw the author of the little mermaid and the snow queen is named Hans Christian Andersen 😉 Not Anderson)
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I agree with everything in the previous comment except for the Tarzan bit. There would be a serious time gap therefore, Anna, Elsa, and Tarzan could not be siblings or cousins. I am not saying that they couldn’t have been related though…
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I don’t get it why doesn’t Anna have powers?
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I have a theory. What if Anna, Elsa, and Rapunzel’s great great grandparents are Hercules and Meg. Think about it. That could be why Anna wasnt born with powers because she got Megs gene. So Hercules and Meg had a child who had Anna and Elsas dad and Rapuzels mom. And maybe Tarzans mom or dad is Elsa, Anna, and Rapunzel’s aunt/uncle. And they were also headed to the royal wedding. So they survived but Anna and Elsa’s parents died. So Tarzan is actually Elsa, Anna, and Rapunzel’s cousin.🤯 It is kind of confusing but I think it makes alot of sense.
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Here’s what I’m thinking. Once upon a time there was a family, with Rapunzel’s mother and father.
Now obviously, the queen is sick blabla magic potion boom healthy baby. Next thing you know, your baby is kidnapped. Then, boom, another baby. Elsa.
Possibly a twin, possibly not.
Either way, now they’re freaked out. OMG our child was just snatched no way are we endangering our other child.
So they gave it to a loving family in Arendelle, not too far away. Uh oh, just realized, that the magic powers from the queen backfired. So I’m assuming maybe there was some left, that got transferred into the genes of Elsa, and so now Elsa has ice powers.
And cause Rapunzel has this vivid beautiful bright hair, and all that magic was used, Elsa now is left with platinum blond hair (which would explain how different it is).
Even more so, Rapunzel’s power is healing right, well then BAM the kinda opposite is ice. Cold. Freezing. Not glowing like a fire.
So anyways, Elsa grows up, unaware, and soon has a little sister named Anna.
Then the whole icy blast incident happens between Elsa and Anna and now, the King is like whaaaa!!
So anyways, they go to the trolls (still not sure how he knows) and heal Anna.
The king and queen don’t want to endanger Anna or Elsa or bring the kidnappers attention so they keep them away from the world. Specifically Anna cause ya know, their real child.
Now, they go on the boat. THIS IS NEW, I HAVENT DONE MUCH RESEARCH but what if, hear me out, they are on the same boat, or again, hear me out, in the same storm as prince Eric. Both going to the wedding or whatever… Not sure about timelines though.
Or, their ship crashed and became the monument boat that Ariel was exploring…thats obvious, its a common theory.
So the three that connect that way, in my opinion, are
Frozen, Ariel and Rapunzel
Then again Im probably completely wrong…
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OMG! i think that Anna has secret fire powers. She has red hair, brighter red than the kings, and Elsa’s white hair means ice and snow. my own little theory.
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I’m assuming since Frozen 2 came out all this theory doesn’t work now since they clearly were not going to the wedding g and they died?
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The people who worked on the movie stated at the time during a Reddit AMA that they were heading to a wedding. That part is not a fan theory, that was word of the people who made the film. The explanation in Frozen 2 is a blatant retcon that contradicts what they previously stated in the AMA on Reddit. In other words, Frozen 2 got it wrong and the wedding explanation was correct.
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Ok. Now I’m confused. So the Frozen 2 story is wrong and the wedding one is correct?
If so, then why not make the movie kind of like that? So like the story would be like this:
Elsa looks for a reason why she was born with her powers, Anna supports her then they remember the song that Queen Adouna used to sing to them. Then they go to the trolls, look for Atohallan and find the truth about their parents. The End.
So basically most of what happened in the movie would be the same, but they wouldn’t find their parents’ ship because the story was wrong.
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